Comments on: Yes Campaign resorts to Threats of a Price to Pay http://www.thedossingtimes.com/blog/2008/05/27/yes-campaign-resorts-to-threats-of-a-price-to-pay/ Just another WordPress weblog Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:16:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Tuathal http://www.thedossingtimes.com/blog/2008/05/27/yes-campaign-resorts-to-threats-of-a-price-to-pay/comment-page-1/#comment-2989 Tuathal Wed, 28 May 2008 14:10:02 +0000 http://www.thedossingtimes.com/blog/?p=1728#comment-2989 Good post. On the whole guilt-tripping thing. I reject any argument that just because Ireland has benefited from the EU in the past means that we are being ungrateful and selfish if we vote no. Every country in the EU has at some point in time benefited through membership. We should not feel guilty if at some point in time the "project" takes a direction we as a nation do not want to abide by and as a result vote No. There is and will always be a Plan B. Once again a the details of a European Treaty have been left outside the door in the run up to a referendum and the argument presented to us is you're either for europe or you're against it. All well in good but in practice perhaps a debate on what Europe is and will be might be a good idea before we decide whether we are for it or against it. Good post.

On the whole guilt-tripping thing. I reject any argument that just because Ireland has benefited from the EU in the past means that we are being ungrateful and selfish if we vote no. Every country in the EU has at some point in time benefited through membership. We should not feel guilty if at some point in time the “project” takes a direction we as a nation do not want to abide by and as a result vote No. There is and will always be a Plan B.

Once again a the details of a European Treaty have been left outside the door in the run up to a referendum and the argument presented to us is you’re either for europe or you’re against it.

All well in good but in practice perhaps a debate on what Europe is and will be might be a good idea before we decide whether we are for it or against it.

]]> By: Lisbon Round Up - Part III | Semper Idem http://www.thedossingtimes.com/blog/2008/05/27/yes-campaign-resorts-to-threats-of-a-price-to-pay/comment-page-1/#comment-2985 Lisbon Round Up - Part III | Semper Idem Tue, 27 May 2008 22:45:09 +0000 http://www.thedossingtimes.com/blog/?p=1728#comment-2985 [...] a German think-tank’s report on what may happen if Lisbon is rejected. Simon of Dossing Times accuses the Yes side of hyperbole on the consequences of a No vote, and Jonathan Brazil offers three reasons to Vote [...] [...] a German think-tank’s report on what may happen if Lisbon is rejected. Simon of Dossing Times accuses the Yes side of hyperbole on the consequences of a No vote, and Jonathan Brazil offers three reasons to Vote [...]

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